Here you go. She was more responsive on the first attempt, but I was setting the video without being able to look at it closely and turned it off instead of on. Nothing captured. Doh! This second pass you can see she'd about had it and I was turning into a nag.
And it was extra hard to focus on footwork and turns when it was all I could do to have her stay close. I suspect I didn't do those very well, but hopefully I didn't miss any of the turns. I did see in the review that I missed the exercise finish after the second down, but I think that was the only one.
Your feedback in appreciated!
Kellie, PLEASE, PLEASE remember to Comment to a New Post. When you do Comment to a New Post, THEN and only then does your New Post automatically populate into our emails.
ReplyDeleteWatching the first few minutes of this video, I lost count of your "Heel" and "Come On". As you clearly experienced, the more times you repeat a command, the less effective they are as your cimmands simply superfluous and unnecessary verbiage. You inadvertently train the dog to ignore your command when you repetitively issue that command.
Jessi will provide you more detailed eedback when she watches this video My coaching to you is to countermove every time Piper.is out of position.
Example:
When she lags, Winch her.
When she is wide, turn INTO her to do LTT.
IWhen she is sluggish on the "Heel" command (and she is) do several FAST starts which will dramatically increase her precision.
To warm her up, before filming, on
leash, do a series of crisp clean turns/immediate Halt to AS.
Example.
"Heel" (fast is she is slow or rubber necking) an immediate Right Turn Halt to AS. Be prepared to give her lightening fast Sit Correction. Then, "Heel" (fast if needed(), do LTT, Halt to AS. Repeat with new turn. The point of this drill is to require Piper to pay attention and give you precision heeling/AS. Done well, this drill will transform Piper into.swift understanding that paying attention to you, AT ALL TIMES, is how a smart dog avoids a collar correction. Again ,by Week 5, the goal is.foe the dog to focus, carefully on its handler, and to respond promptly. But, by Week 5, the handler needs to be hyoer cognizant of where their dog is, at all times, and to 'help their dog by not letting them succeed at failing to be outside of correct Heel position, at all times.
Does this make sense?
Roxanne
My apologies! I didn't realize I needed to also add a comment before you received notification. Yes, your feedback makes perfect sense and I'd forgotten the instructions you gave me at church. Thanks for taking the time to repeat them. I knew we weren't ready to progress and told you that Sunday, but I made the video anyway at your request.
ReplyDeleteUnfortunately, when I signed us up in December I thought we'd be through the course before spring arrived. But here it is and we are barely half way through. I'm now triple slammed with other responsibilities and really don't have sufficient time or band width to dedicate to getting us through this course.
Time for us to withdraw until I can focus the time and energy needed. I will continue to practice what we have been taught and will definitely consider making a second attempt after harvest time, if that's an option.
Thank you gals for all your effort and dedication, I really appreciate everything we've experienced and will do my best to keep getting better at it!
If you could please keep the blog active, that would be super helpful.
Kellie,
ReplyDeleteLife occurs and sometunes catches us ' unprepared for what it takes to do this well." This KMODT certainly can fall into that category. I fo understand.
I have several questions for you.
"Is this break in the training just a 'much needed Time-Out'?"
"Are you planning on starting over this fall?"
If yes and yes, let me know.
Jessi and I are here so you can fully succeed with Piper.
What are your thoughts?
Roxanne
My thoughts are that I want us to have the freedom that the KMODT training can provide, but I don't know that I'll ever have enough free time to dedicate to doing it sufficiently to achieve the results I want. It is frustrating and sad, but it's the truth.
ReplyDeleteYou said in the very beginning that I would need a minimum one hour per day and I should have taken that to heart. I've never achieved that volume, even in the dead of winter. The only way that will change is if I make some fundamental adjustments in lifestyle and commitments.
I can't say in the end which will win out. I can say for sure is that I'm tapped out now. The farm is completely overwhelming in the spring. Add in work, horse, church and AA commitments and it's simply too much to also include such rigorous dog training.
I would like to leave the door open to make the decision to resume until I've gotten a better grip on the farm and the horse. But if you need to know now for sure, that I'll have to say no. I've already failed at this once, so I won't commit again until I know I am able to consistently apply the effort needed for an unlimited period of time.
The hard part is not what you can do, or when, the really tough piece of this is what happens to Piper. Her work ethic switch was flipped to "On " in Week 2, now you are stalled and she hasn't an outlet for her mental brilliance. Piper needs this KMODT like you and I need the Lord, without it and steady progression forward, this will not be good for Piper. Sigh...
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I can appreciate that warning but also can't control it. I'll do the best I can to keep her engaged and progressing within the level I've absorbed and when/if I'm able to recommit, I'll reach out. I can see the potential and I truly do wish it for us both, I just need to be able to do it, and as you pointed out, that's not happening yet.
ReplyDeleteOk. Your FC investment is good for a year, so I will leave your Blog open until your FC start date.
ReplyDeleteThe KMODT curriculum is designed for the dog's optimum learning. It is the continuity of sequencing training layers that transforms the dog. KMODT is not a hit'n'miss, start/stop, do a little training here & there method. It is the consistency of daily training that produces a reliable, well-trained, obedient dog.
So, when you do choose to start over, it will be from the beginning with ILL, then FC Week 1. This is what Tim/Marley are doing right now. Let me know when you are starting over as you then will repost new EXAMS for each week through Week 5. Once we get to Week 5, again, and you post the Vickster's Test, we will go forward and meet for your class lessons beginning with Week 6. That is the best way to restart you and Piper so you both succeed as a team.
I wish you the very best and will so miss seeing you and Piper on a regular basis. Lord willing, you are able to commit and restart at a later date this fall. I am bummed you and Piper won't be in the 2024 Summer Retrieve Course as THAT course is transformational for the owner and their dog. Perhaps next year in Summer of 2025? I offer my Retrieve Course only once a year. It is a remarkable course.
Roxanne
Kellie, I really hope you hang in there with the training. I can’t tell you how many times I felt like quitting and how many times I broke down in tears but it was truly worth all the “blood, sweat and tears”. Though not perfect, today I have a dog who trusts, listens and obeys regardless of the circumstance. I have that freedom you referred to that KMODT provides. This training has helped me develop consistency and discipline I didn’t know I needed in my life. All that to say, I hope you stick with the training and if I can help you in any way, I’m here for you. You can trust Roxanne and Jessi to get you through. This training journey is as much about you and I as it is about our dogs. Lov you, friend ❤️
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You're so sweet Mary. Love you and thank you!
ReplyDeleteAs I texted earlier.... I know down to my toes that I will never be willing to restart and retest from the beginning. That was the perfect thing for Roxanne to remind me. I either do my best to stick with it or quit completely. No long pauses and restarts.
So I'm going to make another attempt at the Vickster's test this weekend after I'lve picked up 8 trees and planted the 10 beds of veggies. Will plant the trees during the week.
I have help starting with Sundance on Thursdays now too., He's easily as wild and high maintenance as Piper and just as neglected. lol
One step at a time. One day at a time. One prayer at a time.
Thank you gals for your support and patience. Piper is worth it!
BTW... I am going to be in California from about 5/1 to 5/8 for my 64th birthday. Meeting my bestie for some ocean fun and coastal camping. Really want to try and have week 5 under my belt before I leave. That's the extent of my dog training goals for the moment. lol
Praise the Lord! Keep on keeping in Kellie. Ninety percent of success is just sheer determination to stick to doing something.
ReplyDeleteYou CAN do this!!
Roxanne
Kellie I do believe in you and Piper. This training is transformational!!! Other wise my little Scotty would no longer be here. We are here to support you and courage you. This training doesn’t just train the dogs. It truly changes the handlers in all disciplines. And makes us a true companion to are dogs! Ion courage you to make it through the training you both deserve to have a trusting and Ladd ting relationship with Piper!!!
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